At about the same time, her sister, Leslie Tisdel, was dating Phillip DeVine, 22, of Fairfield . Its not clear what type of work she does or whether she and her husband are still together. When Boys Don't Cry was released, she petitioned Nebraska movie theatre owners to not show the film. Lana M. Tisdel [2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry . It should be around $30 USD, but it might be on VHS. She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance. Boys Dont Cry was almost entirely based on Kim Peirces collaboration with Lana. They all set Brandon up. What kind of a person would NOT comfort a young woman who was raped? RR, Lana Tisdel Her boyfriend, Conrad Roy III, had . If Tom Nissens biker brother was in the same club as the biker who threatened Nissen, then his brother could protect him. By his late teens, he had moved to the Falls City region of Richardson County, Nebraska, and started to identify and live as a . The rough crowd that Brandon was warned about also worked, especially women. There is deeper background still, but this offers a better glimpse than media into what was going on with the bail money. How old is Lana Tisdel now? Two points. Well, 71 IS relatively (operative word) young given that average age of death of males is approaching 85 today (and has not been been 70-odd for several decades). Right up there with Laux ..gross. He encouraged me, however, to give it a try. Rude comments will be deleted) #brandonteena #teenabrandon #boysdontcry #brandonteenastory. With Brandons murder too and a dad who died relatively young, thats much loss. The two then kidnapped Teena and took him to a rural area, where they raped and beat him. Lana admitted that she even kissed Teena as a man, but this statement also indicates awareness that Teena is a woman. There was a paid help relationship between the two. If his parole officer would have found out about Nissen signing this bail package or if Tisdels parents would have complained, Nissen would have ended up back in jail on a parole violation that would have been as serious as his parole officer wanted it to be. This means that Teena really was set up. Rough crowd has its privileges. Suffice to say that Lana would have expected both parents to make 80+ with average health. He started dating Lana Tisdel, and found a family of sorts in her inner circle of friends, including John Lotter and Marvin Tom Nissen. [A case like Brandon's] would be an emergency, a drop-everything situationand it would probably be handed over to state patrol investigators, who have more resources., Houser lives with his wife of 33 years, Julie, eight blocks from the courthouse. Brandon was born December 12 , 1972, in Lincoln, Nebraska. Shortly after the movies came out, Lana and her mother appeared on A Current Affair and The Maury Povich Show. Regarding the recently paroled convict Nissen (at the time), you say he had no employment but supported 3 kids while living in a pricey house in a pricy area. C: You didn't look. The bodies were discovered the next day by Lambert's mother, Anna Mae.[4][5]. Kimberly Peirce's Boys Don't Cry is one of the eeriest, most deeply tragic films of recent years. Did he take a little time working it up, or what? Why is she smiling? She did not realize that Brandon was born a female until December 19, 1993, when he was arrested for forging checks and was . But it was kept impeccably clean. L.L. Tisdel has made it clear that her relationship with Brandon Teena was brief and did not include sex; only lasting about two months from their first meeting until the murder. C: Why do you run around with girls instead of, ah, guys being you are a girl yourself? This was explored in great detail during Teena Brandons wrongful death suit. I take it shes still alive and confused her being dead from the other guy she got in an accident with that died from his injuries from her old town of Falls Cedar. Lexxi, grow a spine or youre going to implode. Though his murder immediately made headlines, it was Kimberly Peirces film dramatization Boys Dont Cry in 1999 that made Brandons story familiar to millions of Americansand won Hilary Swank an Oscar for her moving portrayal of him. They flesh out good and bad habits, and not all of it is self-evident or common sense. I am not going to say anything about Lana, because I know little about her. She kept her kids in the childrens basement out of the reach of the local street hoodlums. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Maybe, because Teena always wanted to be an outlaw and this was her chance to do it in real life. When Tom Nissen went to Falls City Police to try to have Teenas bail revoked, he asked the police if it will be okay to have Teena tied up in his bedroom until she could be taken back into custody. Although Tisdel did not seem terribly disturbed to learn the truth, her friends and family were angry and began harassing Teena. Have you ever been to Falls City, NE? A practical open house. Nissen and Lotter find them at the hotel lobby and Lana leaves Teena in Nissens company while Lotter takes Lana home to her mother. Linda,as far as I understand this, played the BIGGEST part in Brandons murder.She was a lax,ignorant drunk who helped those animals take out their revenge. Here is the emotional and spiritual impact of a woman acting like a guy who treats girls like human beings and who gets beaten, raped and murdered for it (you can see it that way). What everyone forgets is that when Tom Nissen posted $250.00 bail for Teena, he was putting 10% down and the rest was putting up Lanas house as a collateral. If they failed to pay, the state would auction off their house, take out the $2,500.00 and give the rest of the money to the Tisdels. People grow as individuals, and they live through regret and remorse. Teena and his story have been at the center of academic and public debates concerning gender and sexuality rights. BIRTHDAY STAR: Actress Chloe Sevigny was born in Springfield, Massachusetts, on this day in 1974. He was a cop for years prior to that. She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who . The interviews she gives are surface and shallow, revealing little, when compared to her court testimony at the murder trial, however, regret and remorse may have been part of the impact that time spent with Teena had on her. What a weird coincidence if it is. After all, transgender rights and visibility have increased significantly since 1993. The officer who took Brandons complaint demonstrated why. The majority of our caseload is protection order violations, DUIs, driving under suspension and domestic violence. Here's a 90s girl that went on to have a very successful career, with two Golden Globe awards, a BAFTA, an Emmy, and an Oscar. When they murdered her, they did it because Teena went to authorities. Where did Brandon Teena live? Learn to take that sort of thing (in a comment on the internet, for crying out loud! In modern-day Falls Citypopulation 4,300conservatism comes in the form of mind your own business, live your own life, he told me. JoAnn Brandon, Brandons mother, was eventually awarded $5000 for wrongful death, $7000 for intentional infliction of emotional distress, $80,000 for mental suffering and $6,223.20 for funeral expenses. Lanas dad gave her a blank check to get her hair done, about $30.00 USD. Brandon Teena was born Teena Renae Brandon, and raised in Lincoln, Nebraska - smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt. Thats pretty low, even if suicides bring the age down. Today, she maintains a presence on the internet, but she uses her married name, Lana Bachman, and probably isnt looking to satisfy curiosity seekers. Another head scratcher to your enormous knowledge about this situation is how all these intense relationships took place in just over five weeks. She has become more striking with maturity. and sculpt your new self hot and risible, with a sonnet in my bonnet He has rationalized his role to the point where he's blameless. The person, who took Teena Brandons complaint was not a mere officer, he was a County Sheriff, and he was not the person who took the initial complaint. Reese Witherspoon. Tisdel was not present at the time of the murder, as it took place inside Lambert's home in Humboldt, Nebraska, a 30-minute drive away from Falls City, where Tisdel lived with her mother and sister. Question: If Nissen was worried about going back to prison, why did he rape Brandan? Falls City is one track minded ppl. When she was eighteen years old, three years before her death, she had been admitted to a crisis center as a result of a drug overdose, which may have been intentional. In the Hollywood movie, she came off as a sympathetic character who was kind to Brandon (and she had a job). "With a lot of guys around here, it [doesn't . I think that Teena Brandon deserves some real credit there. Lanas dad did not die relatively young. Lisa does not only help Teena, she also rescues Philip Devine. You can watch the interviews with Lana Tisdel and Linda Gutierres in the documentary on YouTube. Loss of home. Try to get the PDF, its really good stuff! On December 31, 1993, Tom Nissen, who was accompanied by John Lotter, murdered Philip DeVine, Lisa Lambert, and Brandon Teena in Humboldt, Nebraska. PFLAG was happy to help out when I explained the idea. According to police reports, something else happens. Lana Bachman works as a maid at a casino in Kansas. Id say these people earn their relatively good pay and benefits not least in the stress endured by their loved ones in wondering if theyll return from that days work Per gun-ownership and the much greater prevalence of violence in the US, your police have a harder time than UKs (yours are somewhat better paid not that it compensates for such high risk and early death). Hi, Linda. Other members of law enforcement have condemned Lauxs handling of the case in the strongest possible terms. According to her, Philip DeVine meets Leslie Mayfield (Lanas Half Sister) at Job Corps and comes with her to Falls City for the holidays. I'm pretty sure he will not speak with you, Houser wrote in an email. Aston was killed in the crash. Except on that day, before the Christmas party at Tom Nissens house, Linda Gutierrez, a forty something, asked Teena Brandon, a 20 year old severely traumatized psychiatric patient, to take her pants off to see what she has between her legs. There is also a statement that Teena Brandon made to police, where she claimed that they (friends of Nissen and Lotter) where watching the building and that she did not go inside. Tisdel was a close friend of Teena's and was present during the events . Lana knew that Teena was female. All she knew, she recalls now, was that she couldn't let Teena go. Oh absolutely! he responded. "Brandon was nicer and looked better than any boy I'd ever been with," Tisdel later told journalist Donna Minkowitz in the original Village Voice article that launched mainstream awareness of Teena's story. In addition, law enforcement in America is a ride into upper middle class. He thought he was signing bail if somebody would have told him that he was signing over Tisdels house as a collateral, he would have backed away, like any normal person. This woman should have gone to prison with them. The Academy award winning movie Boys Don't Cry is based on the real life story of Teena Ranae Brandon, an American trans man who was raped and murdered in Humboldt, Nabraska on December 31, 1993.Directed by Kimberly Peirce, the movie released in the year 1999, focuses predominantly on Brandon's love affair with Lana Tisdel, a girl he met in Falls city and his pseudo life as a man there. Eager to come to terms with his department's tragic mishandling of the rape that led to the murder on New Year's Eve in 1993, a small-town sheriff welcomes LGBT-sensitivity training. In one, you have Teena Brandons cousin, Maurice Adair twirling his glass of beer and acting guilty, when he tells us how Teena would help him out. Alas, both Lanas daughter and Teena Brandons niece are both young women single mothers, and each gave their son a name fit for a king. GOD bless the victims. Things are not the same.. Tisdel sued the creators of the film Boys Don't Cry for using her name and likeness without permission; the suit was settled out of court. The police described the crash like this: Nissen was like your average reader in all of this. Teena was born in Lincoln as a girl but was living in the Falls City area as a man. He was transgender. How else could Tom and John have founded Brandon at Lisa? Everyone knew that Teena was not fully male, the question everyone obsessed with was if she was male at all); and second, if Lana admitted to kissing Teena, had she also kissed Michelle Lotter, both having admitted to being in a best friend relationship. Where is Lana Tisdel now? Teena started dating Lana Tisdel in 1992, and it seemed he may have finally found his match. He became friends with several local residents. After the movie was made, Kim Peirce decided to leave Lana penniless in the dust. Thanks much for sending me the link. Brandon Teena, left, with Lana Tisdel in an undated photo (Associated Press) Twenty years ago in a little Nebraskan town called Falls City, a handsome 21-year-old transman with . Aphrodite Jones reports it wrong. Regarding Lisa Lambert, there is an interesting moment. Advertisement As the film nears its 20th anniversary- just one year shy of the oldest Brandon will ever be- I decided it was now or never, if I was ever going to sit down and pick the . These girls are convinced that no harm will come to the man in their life so long as they together with him, and in some cases, little girls are right and they know what they are doing, but Lana was not a little girl, she was 18 and different rules may apply to her. A gang? You want young? Sheriff Laux was attempting to prosecute Tom Nissen for rape, but the rape victim had changed her mind and refused to cooperate after she agreed to press charges and the District Attorneys office was involved. Lambert's son Tanner was in the house at the time and was unharmed. Michelle Lotter is John Lotters sister. Teena was new to the close-knit area, from Lincoln, Nebraska, and the local crowd was curious about him. Well, Houser laughed, these aren't exactly offices of high reward!, He joked that Falls City is a few miles from the ends of the earth, but assured me that he and his compatriots are a lot more evolved than you might expect. Many law enforcement officials at the time thought Laux's behavior was appalling, he said. Lana Tisdel, the real-life girlfriend of Brandon Teena portrayed by Chlo Sevigny (in a Best Supporting Actress nominated role) in the film "Boys Don't Cry," has settled her lawsuit with . Jones reports that DeVine discovers that Leslie Mayfield sleeps with Lenny Landrum and breaks up with her. Teena and Nissen appeared at the Oasis karaoke club in Falls City together, and they both went to visit the Tisdels. Im surprised they recruit! If you were in a mess like this, you would be like oh my God, I dont want to see my parole officer What happens instead is that Nissen tells the Court that he was afraid of Leland Tisdel and what he would do to him for putting up the house as a collateral. [7], Tanner Lambert graduated from Humboldt High School in 2011, and was raised by his aunt. The Amateur Radio Operators Preparing for the Worst, How to Make Friends, According to Science, What I Learned About Life at My 30th College Reunion. Dramatic-license violation: She alleged that the movie used her life story without her permission and unfairly depicted her as a habitual drinker and drug user. Here is the interesting part: Lanas side was able to successfully stop the distribution of Boys Dont Cry in parts of Kansas and Nebraska and Kims side quickly settled for an undisclosed sum. She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was . Lotter and Nissen had told Teena that if he told anyone what they did, they would kill him. What can the old man do to him? Are you afraid your mind is so malleable that it could be warped by reading a few sentences of something you dont fully agree with? Two weeks later Teena knocks on Lanas house door at the same time that Tom Nissen starts wining and drinking together with Lanas mother. So, what is the big reveal about Lisa Lambert, that she was gay or bi? Now having learned about the complexities of being trans, she reported with greater sensitivity and apologized for not understanding trans people when she wrote her original article in . I first asked Houser if he could get me in touch with Laux, wondering whether he has any regret about the way he handled things. RR, would you expect loyalty after a 3 week relationship? I know that Brandon said to his mother before he was murdered, he believed Lana set him up to be raped. I was an Army officer for a while: soldiers often dont make old bones stress, smoking, poor diet, risk in civilian life, etc. Valuable property. Researchers are attributing these statistics to the unique combination of easy access to deadly weapons, intense stress, and human devastation that police are exposed to on a daily basis.. Reese Witherspoon starred in some of the 90s' most famous films, including "Man on the Moon," "Cruel Intentions," "Election," and more. C: You don't knowDid, when he got in the back seat you were already spread out back there ready for him, waiting on him. Lana Tisdel, her sister Leslie, and mother Linda were all involved in the criminal trial and later lawsuits that followed the murder and later, movie development. Teena also befriended several locals, including John Lotter and Marvin Thomas Nissen, and began dating a 19-year-old named Lana Tisdel. While he's sure there are some gays in town, they're not overt about it. As far as I am concerned, go near any checkpoint with armed men pulling selected people out of the crowd. Teena did not got to police on her own. This has two implication, first, as a girl, Teena would be third in line to be Lanas new best friend (and John Lotter trying to drag Lana with him is claiming that both Lana and her half sister Leslie have treated Teena like crap. She puts pressure on DeVine to get involved in some way and to put pressure on Teena to drop charges. Lotter & Nissan told Brandon that if he went to the police about the rape that they wound silence him permanently. But when she saw Lana Tisdel, Brandon focused exclusively on her. C: [Y]ou were all half-ass drunk.I can't believe that if he pulled your pants down and you are a female that he didn't stick his hand in you or his finger in you. Lanas Wikipedia page said that Lanas dad gave her a blank check to get her hair done or something, and she used that blank check to post Brandons bail. if so you must grasp a chisel So, we have Leland Tisdel, an agricultural worker living in a very small house, as we would expect. Published: Aug. 31, 2020 at 4:23 AM PDT. Jones writes that Nissen lived in a small and filthy house with ketchup stained furniture, practically a shotgun shack. Growing up, the star he most idolized was Cher. I dont understand. This was some kind of the real or imagined underworld, and Nissen and Lotter fully expected Teena to keep quiet and to be able to beat and rape her with impunity, and to possibly turn her out as a prostitute, whether she stayed in Falls City or went to Lincoln or to Omaha. . Peirce also did not name Hillary Swank character as Brandon or Teena, and Teena Brandons family got no money whatsoever from Boys Dont Cry. After Kim left her behind, Lana sued, claiming that the film misrepresented her as a jobless skank. This claim was true. That Laux could have garnered enough votes to hold any officeand cart children to schoolsurprised me. Linda Gutierres had a rough life. Maury comes knocking. Same reason that Lisa Lambert kicked Teena out of her house. Nissen lived in s two story house in the commercial district in the center of town. That Christmas Party is Teenas first night out of prison. This coming from a rapist is an obvious red flag. Apparently an act Teena put on for Lana. Your email address will not be published. This in itself is a traumatic event, before any set up or betrayal enters into question. Just a few years after the tragedy, he was voted commissioner of Richardson County. By the time he was 21, Brandon was identifying solely as a man and moved in with his 18-year-old girlfriend, Lana Tisdel, who was initially unaware he had been born female. Without their excellent investigative journalism we would have never learned of the extreme misconduct and inhumanity Brandon suffered from Laux. At the same time, Tom Nissen, a thief and a sex offender out on parole, who has three kids and owns a home on Stone Street right behind the town square, he spends time ingratiating himself to Linda Gutierrez. It's a simple concepthonoring however people want to define themselvesbut it requires a leap of imagination Lotter, Nissen and Laux couldn't makeand it would have made all the difference. Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. Sorry BB I quit reading your dissertation once you started misgendering Brandon. "United States Public Records, 19702009," database, FamilySearch (May 23, 2014), Lana M Tisdel, Grant, Nebraska, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information. northwestern college graduation 2022; elizabeth stack biography. Although she came off as a protagonist in the 1999 film Boys Dont Cry, Tisdel didnt care much for the Hollywood treatment. That is why that bail package (paperwork for the transfer of the money and collaterized property obligation) required a 21 year olds signature. A law enforcement career in America offers benefits equivalent to Scandinavian socialism, except for six week vacations with pay. There is a really interesting research, a longitudinal study that tracked children born in 1940 and how they lived and how they died of old age. Law enforcement is not just a job, it is a lifestyle. You will see girls holding on to the arms of their husbands, fathers, boyfriends, and older brothers. Friends said Ms. Brandon, 21, had posed for two months as a man, using the name Brandon Teena, and had told stories of an incomplete sex-change operation or of being a hermaphrodite. To make a long story short, I believe that Teena Brandon wanted to be an outlaw in the real world and that she tried joining a company of real world criminals. That's 'our Charlie! Houser said. And thats what they did. Nissen was a felon out on parole, he had no business posting bail packages using other peoples property. No wonder he lived in a small house. Other people lived there when I saw it. Teena Brandon walked into Lindas house and was kicked out only when the other people caught her stealing. Nissen was scared by prison. Another point of divergence is how Lotter and Nissen found out that Teena talked to police about the rape. Stress and emotional pain will make it easier to get fat and harder to lose it. C: Why do you run around with girls instead of guys being you're a girl yourself? by Donna Minkowitz. with a grain of salt long enough to glean other possibly worthwhile information. What, four houses? So there wasnt a bondsman involved I take it. that and he can charge Nissen with felony mortgage fraud Nissen putting up property as collateral that wasnt his. Teena Brandon was running away from being the lowest rung of the underworld society. Brandon Teena (L) and his girlfriend Lisa Tisdel. I think that not enough time was spent on Teena Brandons family, or Lana Tisdels lineage or Leland Tisdel, Lanas father or her half sister who was kept out of the story altogether and you wont find her photo. They went on to say that Teenas interview was not unusually callous. You understand, that it wasnt about Toms brother physically protecting him, but that Tom Nissen could not strike a gang member in self defense, you punch a gang member, you are dealing with the whole gang. Adults, namely Linda Gutierrez, acted on camera, like the two were crazy kids and she was the adult in the room. Lana Tisdel has a very close and a very positive relationship with her daughter, probably amazingly so. The men responsible for those lost livesJohn Lotter and Tom Nissenare still sitting on death row today. Teena Brandons bail was really $2,500.00 USD, but the Court took the usual 10% with the rest as collateral. She has a daughter and two sons and at least one grandchild. Same court documents claim that Nissen and Lotter found out after police interviewed them about the rape. Richardson County now has access to services from Project Response, a support advocacy group based out of Omaha and Lincoln that assists with domestic violence . Lanas mom howled in rage and shoved Teena off her feet and into a large piece of furniture. On December 14 Teena gets arrested and is only released on December 24. Brandon Tenna was a transgender man from Lincoln, Nebraska in the United States, who was the victim of a violent hate crime in 1993 and was later murdered in Humboldt, Nebraska, alongside Phillip DeVine and Lisa Lambert in what became known as "The Humboldt Murders". December 31, 2013. Unwitting accomplice. I hope she now enjoys happiness, not least through her own children and g/children. The Brandon Teena Story is a documentary about hatred and homophobia in the heartland of America. Teena drove into town in Lisa Lamberts green Mercury Cougar, a luxury sports coupe, that she passed as her own. At the time, she was seriously underweight . That was a boys only club and she was rebuked. She says I told her, Bradon, no one deserves to get raped.. well, not get raped. However, their two-month relationship is described as very intense. When they asked her, Teena freaked out, and eventually agreed. In his naivete he may have even introduced her to the biker he knew, because Teena may have wanted to join the bikers gang. When my letter requesting an interview went unanswered, I called Laux's home in Dawson. The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. I couldn't quite tell if he meant it approvinglyas if gays should avoid public displays of affectionor if he was just reporting. When I first came across all these facts, I got a distinct inpression that Teena ran into something bigger than the two, maybe the local Ku Klux KLan, but then based on forensic evidence, I now believe that the person who shot the three people was an angry woman hater. Today its the Rainbow Capital of small town America, even though 99% of the people had nothing to do with it. This man either recognized Teena as a female or he had something on her, because he started screaming at Teena and left in a huff, promising to beat up Tom Nissen. Parents were split before that and came together for his funeral. Your email address will not be published. This case takes place around Christmastime of 1993 in Humboldt, Nebraska. Lana, who in her youth resembled actress Jodie Foster, still has long beautiful strawberry blond hair. This becomes significant when you consider Michelle Lotters performance in Brandon Teena Story documentary. why ya lookin so dismal? Falls City PD were willing to arrest Nissen and Lotter for the beating that they subjected Teena after the Christmas party at Tom Nissens house, but Teena repeatedly refused to place charges. Why was he telling Lana he had both female and male body parts when apparently he didnt or did he? Lana never spoke in depth about Teena Brandon or what happened in Falls City. How do you explain that? It was callous how he treated Teena, but then there was testimony by a female DA prosecuting sex crimes and by an investigator of sex, both of whom said that interviews of rape victims may appear hard towards the victims or callous, but that is of necessity, so as to get certain information from the victim and to ascertain if the victim can take the stand against the rapist, and be cross examined by the defense, which will be even more cruel and demeaning. Its interesting to hear that Lanas loyalty to Brandon wasnt steadfast. weird laws in guatemala; les vraies raisons de la guerre en irak; lake norman waterfront condos for sale by owner The Brandon Teena Story. Think all the burgers and pizzas washed down with soda. [3], On December 19, 1993, Brandon Teena was arrested for forging checks, and put in jail for several days. Had this been New York City, where suing the municipality is like hitting the jackpot and everyone sues, once you utter the magic words I revoke the bail, a warrant squad will arrive and take your long lost cousin away in handcuffs, lest your long lost cousin you are helping out of the goodness of your heart turn out to be a sex fiend or a drug addict who is corrupting your kids when you are not looking. In a rural area of the middle of nowhere SE Nebraska, who are they shaking down to finance their enterprise? In a recent interview from her L.A. office, director Peirce called it a third rape.. Not a good thing for him, considering how closed minded people were - especially back in the 90's, when the phrase "transgender" was not at . When Teena was calling anyone and everyone to get out of Falls City, it was Lisa Lambert, who called Falls City Police. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) [2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). I believe that Teena acted more violent and tougher than Nissen, and intimidated him for a time.
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